January 26, 2005
Iraq and Bush's Legacy
Rafe Colburn: "It's hard for me not to be cynical about Iraq these days."
Like Rafe points out, a part of me wants to see Bush fail. I understand that if Bush fails, it is not good for Iraq and it is not good for America. Call me selfish, but at this point I care more about America than I care about Iraq. Bush has pushed our country to a point where I fear only bad things can happen, and continue to happen until we have a huge change in our government's approach towards foreign policy. I sometimes think the biggest problem in America is that most Americans don't understand the long-term impact of Bush's decisions. They don't realize that privatizing Social Security is just a way to put more money in the pockets of the already-rich. They do not realize that the billions of dollars we are spending in Iraq is not money we actually have; it is money our government is borrowing. While I do want Bush to succeed in Iraq, a part of me also wants him to fail.
At some point in the not-too-distant future our country will experience a huge wake-up call; personally it think it will be the collapse of the housing market with millions of people defaulting on their mortgages. This possibility combined with high oil prices, gas-guzzling forms of transportation and the increase in prices for food will push us into something much like the Great Depression of the 1930s. After the majority of Americans have struggled for a few years, they will eject our current (corrupt) government -- either through mass impeachments, assassinations or some form of economic civil war where the two sides are the rich vs. the poor. The poor vastly outnumber the rich, but the rich control the government so the two sides could be the people vs. the government, and since the government contols the military, we might be looking at some kind of police state if things get too out of hand. It might sound far-fetched, but it's certainly one possibility for the future of America.
Update: Seymour Hersh gave a speech last month that should scare the crap out of anyone who thinks the Bush administration has a firm grip on what's going on in Iraq.
Posted by Cameron Barrett at January 26, 2005 03:16 PMCam........I find myself having the same feelings that you are having about Bush and Iraq. I have a son-on-law that got called up in January to go and then the orders were rescinded......so we're walking on eggshells...I saw the Bush press conference today and he just blows me away. If anyone asked him a tough question, he got defensive. He made stupid little remarks, under his breath, about the ones that pressed him.........and I'm sitting here thinking, "this man is the President of MY country".......I can see myself getting into a real rant here...so I must hush. But Social Security is scaring me to death. I see Bush's efforts for what they are........what is wrong with those who can't see that the richer get richer and poor get poorer? Thanks for giving us your thoughts. I feel better now. Pat
Posted by: fayerody at January 26, 2005 08:10 PM
Wow...the rich control the government and the poor....???? Hurry up and call CNN and MSNBC, that's never happened before in human history.
Posted by: angelton at January 26, 2005 08:18 PM
Angelton, that is my point exactly. Perhaps we are doomed to watch history repeat itself with Bush in charge. Most Americans do not understand how to look at the world (and at Bush's policies) from a perspective other than their own. All they know is what they see on FOX, CNN and MSNBC -- which, if you follow world events as reported by non-American news organizations such as the BBC -- is a pretty sad state of affairs.
Posted by: Cameron Barrett at January 26, 2005 08:25 PM
That is what happens when everything is done for the short-term gain and not the long term. Probably 99% of Bush's decisions are done so the next poll numbers are in his favor and his half of the country is generally happy. He knows he won't get the other half no matter what, so he just doesn't care for them. Besides, no re-election to worry about anymore.
Half of the problem also comes from no viable alternatives in the first place. When you have two candidates that are basically the same and just as corrupt, well, no wonder everyone takes the short term view.
The only prayer we have IMHO? Get solid control of the Senate (since the house is less likely) in 2006. It's our only hope to give Bush at least some checks and balances. How to do that? Wish I knew.
Posted by: Chris G. at January 26, 2005 08:56 PM
"I sometimes think the biggest problem in America is that most Americans don't understand the long-term impact of Bush's decisions."
Only sometimes? At what times do you think people *do* understand the long-term impacts?
Posted by: andrew at January 26, 2005 09:47 PM
"At what times do you think people *do* understand the long-term impacts?"
I think people understand the ramifications of our government's foreign policy decisions once they become educated about the facts that surround them. It helps to know some world history and realize that there are many hidden factors that drive the Bush administration's specific decisions -- unfortunately not all of them disclosed to the American people. Basing your knowledge nad understanding foreign policy solely on the news and information that comes from the mainstream television news programs is at best a vey stupid thing to do.
Posted by: Cameron Barrett at January 26, 2005 10:14 PM
What a borderline psycho entry. I understand doubt and disgust with Bush, but then digressing into a prediction of America's collapse based on throwing in every current popular worry except the kitchen sink as causes is ridiculous.
Also, I think you're generalizing a lot in terms of Iraq and also the U.S. economy. There's a lot more going on than you give credit for.
And then assassination? Civil war? Come on, Cam.
Posted by: Ben at January 28, 2005 12:14 PM
History has a tendency to repeat itself. We have had presidents assassinated in the past. We have had civil war in the past. We have had a nation-breaking national economic crises in the past. I already admit it sounds far-fetched, but it could happen.
Bush won a narrow re-election. 50.8% of the vote is not a mandate and thinking so only pushes the remaining 49.2% into a weird sort of disenfranchisement. We are a divided country and Bush is doing nothing to stop it from becoming even more divided. If anything, he is only seeking to increase the amount of power "his side" currently holds. This kind of thinking is what leads to civil war. And it doesn't help that they're "religionizing" everything in their path, making it even easier for fundamentalist terrorists to justify blowing us up.
Posted by: Cameron Barrett at January 28, 2005 12:25 PM
It's easy to think in extremes. In reality, things don't often happen that way.
Posted by: Ben at January 28, 2005 12:56 PM
"It's easy to think in extremes. In reality, things don't often happen that way."
Yeah, sure.
USA: S/11
Spain: M/11
And WWI, WWII,... to name just a *little* few...
No extremes...
Posted by: Zalo at January 30, 2005 12:05 AM
History does indeed repeat itself. The headline from this NYT article in 1967 is strikingly similar to headlines written about the Iraqi elections.
I don't think we're at the end of the insanity. I still think things have to get about 1,000 times worse. Perhaps when people can't afford cable anymore, they'll begin to ask why things are so messed up.
Posted by: Kathy at February 9, 2005 09:09 AM
As a non US city-zen I may well be shot down in flames for this observation, but what the hey...
It seems to me(us) here in the UK that the USofA is fast becoming a dipole system spinning around the fundamentalist christian far right and the common man, and as the country spins, centrapetal force is gonna tear the sucker in half.
Its time the center ground stood up and started reigning in these two entities to ensure that common-sence prevales and the rest of the world can relax.
(you scare us man, you really do...)
good luck!
Posted by: jim at February 11, 2005 08:35 AM
You should read "The Pentagon's New Map", Cam.
And sorry Zalo, in my job I deal with "extreme" scenarios. Most of them just never happen. We're lucky that more don't.
Posted by: Ben at February 18, 2005 02:27 PM